tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post3981827931506457295..comments2024-01-18T20:19:31.971-05:00Comments on Permanent Press: Cold Breakdown of the SC CWP BillBryan Caskeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09235927600483403854noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-23929882165134683652014-01-31T11:57:17.591-05:002014-01-31T11:57:17.591-05:00I'm honestly not sure how it will affect recip...I'm honestly not sure how it will affect reciprocity. That's a good question.Bryan Caskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09235927600483403854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-85076951223353757792014-01-31T10:33:40.808-05:002014-01-31T10:33:40.808-05:00I appreciate the information you have provided. A...I appreciate the information you have provided. As a CWP instructor I am not in favor of eliminating the 8 hour rule for training. If your classes are very small 3-4 students it can be a stretch to get to the 8 hours because that includes range time. My one point I would like to make is: What impact will this have on our current and future reciprocity agreements. I can only think that other states that require mandated training (with minimum times identified) would now reconsider weather or not they want to continue to recognize our CWP. Please what are your thoughts on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-29879051423798533192014-01-31T10:19:26.841-05:002014-01-31T10:19:26.841-05:00Just because a particular bar or restaurant has a ...Just because a particular bar or restaurant has a " no concealed weapons allowed sign " this will not stop a bad guy from entering and robbing everyone. He'll know no one is armed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-41038466120080506772014-01-31T01:26:43.847-05:002014-01-31T01:26:43.847-05:00I liked the breakdown Bryan. Thanks for that. As...I liked the breakdown Bryan. Thanks for that. As a multiple unit owner of restaurants in SC, I see it as an advantage to let CWP holders know that they are very welcome in my restaurants. I also see it as an opportunity to know who will stand with the 2nd Amendment or not by their posting of signs that IMO say "Don't Eat Here" if they're against you protecting yourself in their establishment.<br /><br />I agree with Kent, the current laws are the same as they are with consent if a customer wants to carry when it is prohimited. <br /><br />And Bryan, yes....the ones that consulted on the sign requirement laws (I know one of them) told me they were very specific in very odd dimensions and placement in order to hinder compliance of the law. There are things I look for that very few establisments get correct based on that conversation. It's pretty funny to see the half a$$ed efforts anti gun establishents try when posting their signs.Kilmarleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13267544965460823887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-26299938124850413952014-01-30T14:36:38.509-05:002014-01-30T14:36:38.509-05:00Thanks for the breakdown Bryan! I thought I remem...Thanks for the breakdown Bryan! I thought I remembered clauses already in the current law that allows express consent where it is otherwise prohibited. It is currently in there for churches and medical facilities. They are just continuing the language and ability in the new law for other businesses. I agree - as you said, if you are the owner and you want to let someone you know carry with a CWP in your place of business, more power to you.Kentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-67188583692995155272014-01-30T13:55:08.793-05:002014-01-30T13:55:08.793-05:00You're absolutely right about the sign require...You're absolutely right about the sign requirements. I didn't go into it in my piece, but your right. The signs for "posting" have to be very specific in a great many details. (height, width, font, where the sign is located in relation to the door, and from the floor, etc.)<br /><br />Not sure if the law was intentionally written to be hard to comply with or not, but it's definitely specific.Bryan Caskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09235927600483403854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-28701076711950213932014-01-30T13:23:53.979-05:002014-01-30T13:23:53.979-05:00I don't know if it's as simple as posting ...I don't know if it's as simple as posting 'A' sign - meaning not just any sign will do. SC Code SECTION 23-31-235: Sign requirements is pretty specific (written intentionally that way). It gives you a leg to stand on if you ever caught ignoring an improper sign.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023101836951473113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-88025906358443657872014-01-28T20:23:54.774-05:002014-01-28T20:23:54.774-05:00I agree with you about eliminating the 8 hour cour...I agree with you about eliminating the 8 hour course. Not only does it educate people. It also gives even knowledgible gun owners/carriers a chance to get clarification on anything that they don't fully understand. The instructors can break it down into a language a common citizen understands. Thank you for doing just that with the new law.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14384794709915372512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-9693792800400038652014-01-28T00:11:53.022-05:002014-01-28T00:11:53.022-05:00Good group -- you'd be a welcome addition. Vas...Good group -- you'd be a welcome addition. Vast levels of experience represented there, including several who have been essential in getting the CWP law passed initially, and then making statutory improvements as politics allowed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-76090782099931027312014-01-27T17:53:23.734-05:002014-01-27T17:53:23.734-05:00As a CWP instructor I like that the "Must be ...As a CWP instructor I like that the "Must be 8 hrs" is no longer held over my head But I don't it will change how I teach the Class, but it will allow for some adjustment based on class size and back ground. And change to the carring in vehicles is long over due. In my class I usually end up discussing where to carry in a vehicle more than any other topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-19473699109768448422014-01-27T11:01:50.194-05:002014-01-27T11:01:50.194-05:00https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/scfirearms/con...https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/scfirearms/conversations/topicsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-53319699857826174042014-01-26T21:27:03.510-05:002014-01-26T21:27:03.510-05:00What's the link to the Yahoo group? I wouldn&#...What's the link to the Yahoo group? I wouldn't mind checking that out from time to time.Bryan Caskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09235927600483403854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-85586728612534572462014-01-26T19:35:12.718-05:002014-01-26T19:35:12.718-05:00Bryan, thanks for the analysis. I linked your pos...Bryan, thanks for the analysis. I linked your post over on the GrassrootsSC Yahoo Group. Stay warm!Al T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15440320733839798151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-18966332000401884452014-01-25T14:28:25.220-05:002014-01-25T14:28:25.220-05:00No open carry here in SC.No open carry here in SC.Bryan Caskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09235927600483403854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7221488092124233984.post-57160258735749515482014-01-25T00:34:36.870-05:002014-01-25T00:34:36.870-05:00The graphic makes me want to know what SC law says...The graphic makes me want to know what SC law says about open carry. Is it verboten?Donna B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16771075314473811594noreply@blogger.com